Mudder 4 Inch Nylon Cable Ties - 200 Pack (Black & White) for Home, Office & DIY Organization - Heavy Duty Zip Ties for Wires, Cables & Bundling

Thinner than the ones I had before in the same size, so I've backed off making them really tight. That may be a good thing in the end because it puts less pressure on the point of attachment. No problem with their grip in the one-way ratchet. Had not used white before and still find more use for the black than the white. When it comes time to order again I will probably buy the same again but only in black.